"Talkin’ Old School” With Roger Franklin Williams Podcast

Doug Plank is a former safety who played for 8 seasons from 1975-1982. Doug is a master of all trades: from Burger King franchisee to broadcaster to football coach, and many other crafts in-between.

How He Prepared for Life After Football

"I always tried to prepare for the day football was over. Every offseason when I was with the Chicago Bears, I managed to make more money than I did in the regular season. I knew I could survive and have success after football. I did that by continually pushing myself in the offseason: ‘What could I do? What skill could I acquire? What license could I go out and get?’"

“I knew I could survive and have success after football. I did that by continually pushing myself in the offseason: ‘What could I do? What skill could I acquire? What license could I go out and get?’”

"I had a real estate license, I had a loan origination license, I was a contractor, I could build buildings, I went and took a health license, etc. I wanted to prepare for what could be a quick ending of football, and mine was. I happened to suffer a spinal concussion with the Chicago Bears my eighth year, and it kept me from playing. So, I leaned back on those things I had prepared myself for."

"In 1982, the Chicago Bears set me up to sign autographs for a Burger King restaurant, and I met the franchisee. He gave me instructions on how to become a Burger King franchisee, which I ended up doing for a total of 12 years. Even before my career was over, I was an approved Burger King franchisee. I had a wife and two kids - there had to be something after football. Being an owner-operator of Burger King allowed me to use all of those skills I had developed in the offseasons. I used my real estate license, my contractor license to build the building, the loan origination license to get financing, my insurance license to get liability insurance on my property, etc."

A Man of Many Talents

"I feel like when you’re as driven as a professional athlete, you look at every opportunity and want to tackle it. At one point while I was living in Phoenix, Arizona, Buddy Ryan gave me the opportunity of trying out as the broadcaster for the Arizona Cardinals. I did pre-game, post-game and highlight shows. As soon as that football season was over, I had several other stations asking me if I was interested in doing sports broadcasts for them. I went from being a broadcaster for the Arena Football League to being a defensive coordinator. I went on to become part of the coaching staff on several different arena teams and within the NFL."

“I feel like when you’re as driven as a professional athlete, you look at every opportunity and want to tackle it.”

How His Experience with Football Helped Along the Way

"Football taught me hard work and how to get back up when you’re knocked down. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been knocked down. I say this often to friends and other players: ‘Don’t feel sorry for yourself. In football, you’ve gotten knocked down often. You went the wrong direction. You didn’t see the guy coming. You just got destroyed. You lost to a team when you should have won at home. It’s all those things we go through as athletes. But, you don’t stay down. Do the extra work, do whatever it takes to get back up.’"

His Experience with The Trust

"I’ve continued to take advantage of The Trust’s health and wellness resources. I’ve had the opportunity to get an eye exam, a physical exam, etc. through the Brain & Body Assessment. I am very thankful for the efforts The Trust has made in terms of helping former players."

Why He Wished The Trust Was Around When He Finished the Game

"The Trust was something I felt former players needed a long time ago. Having played in the ‘70s and ‘80s, I felt like the termination of the association with the respective team that you were playing for was rather quick and rather cold. The final transaction of someone being let go is devastating to most players. This is something they've tried to achieve their whole life. They are finally at the pinnacle and often once the time comes for it to end, it’s rather abrupt. What The Trust does is be there to help you with what life is like when you’re finished with football."

“What The Trust does is be there to help you with what life is like when you’re finished with football.”

Why He Encourages Other Former Players to Utilize The Trust

"Up until recently, there wasn’t much of anything to give former players direction. After their football career, they may be devastated. I think many have lost a lot of pride and belief in themselves. When I first retired, there was nothing. You would call someone and try to request something but there was no follow-through. The Trust is what I wish I had then. I am very happy for players younger than myself to not have to go through that. I’m in my mid-60s now and not that those opportunities weren’t always out there for each player to go after, but I had to do it completely on my own. The Trust does an unbelievable job of helping former players see and find options and alternatives for their futures, prioritize their health, etc."

Mike Ditka is an American former football player, coach, and television commentator. A member of both the College Football (1986) and Pro Football Hall of Fame (1988), he was the 1961 UPI NFL Rookie of Year, a five-time Pro Bowl selection and five-time All-Pro tight end with the Chicago Bears, Philadelphia Eagles, and Dallas Cowboys of the National Football League (NFL).

Malcolm E. "Mac" Steen (June 30, 1948 – October 2, 2026) was an American college football player and orthodontist.[2] Steen was a prominent tackle for coach Ray Graves' Florida Gators of the University of Florida from 1967 to 1969.[3][4] Graves rated Steen as the Gators best right tackle of the 1960s.[5] He was the senior team captain in 1969.[6]

Mike Ditka is an American former football player, coach, and television commentator. A member of both the College Football (1986) and Pro Football Hall of Fame (1988), he was the 1961 UPI NFL Rookie of Year, a five-time Pro Bowl selection and five-time All-Pro tight end with the Chicago Bears, Philadelphia Eagles, and Dallas Cowboys of the National Football League (NFL).

https://www.froggers.com/apopka

Froggers Grill & Bar in Apopka opened in 2004 and features a casual restaurant sports bar atmosphere specializing in Wings and full liquor bar with 12 beers on tap, over 32 HD LED TV's, 3 Big Screen Projectors, a pool table and dartboards.

Talkin Old School: 10-3-26

Guests were Boone High School Football Coach Sprinkle, Apopka High School Football Coach Neeson, Deland High School Football Coach Darlington.

The Mary Gardner Show blends celebrity interviews, cultural insight, expert coaching, and meaningful conversations that help listeners navigate leadership, communication, relationships, and life in a complicated world.

Mary is known nationally as The Charisma Coach—a trusted advisor to executives, celebrities, authors, and high achievers. With decades of experience in media, personal branding, professional speaking, and high-level coaching, Mary brings truth, humor, inspiration, and practical strategies to every episode.

Listeners tune in for:

• Celebrity and expert interviews
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• Faith-infused encouragement
• Real conversations about culture and community
• Tools for personal and professional growth

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Rocky Bleier’s story - a gripping tale of courage on both the football fields of America
and the battle fields of Vietnam - has held audiences in rapt attention for years.
Yet, the motivational message behind it, detailing how ordinary people can become
extraordinary achievers, defines success in the new American century.
With the same optimism, sense of humor and steadfast determination that were his
trademarks as a Pittsburgh Steelers running back, Rocky Bleier takes audiences from
his early years through his professional career and talks about the lessons he learned
along the way….lessons that we all can benefit from.
Not falling within the ideal of what a running back should look like, Bleier had to run
harder and play smarter to be able to stand out. Despite his drive and ability to make
the big play, the Pittsburgh Steelers only considered him a late round pick. But before
the season ended that first year, he was drafted again…this time by the United States
Army. At the height of the Vietnam War, Bleier was thrust into combat early and was
seriously wounded when his platoon ran into an ambush. Receiving wounds from
both rifle fire and grenade fragments in his legs, he was barely able to walk and his
professional football career seemed to have ended before it began...
For more than two years, he drove himself. Little by little he overcame obstacles and
fought his way back. He not only made the Pittsburgh Steelers, but also eventually
became a starting running back on a team that won four Super Bowls and became the
greatest football team of the 20th century.
The hard lessons Rocky Bleier learned early in his life that helped him overcome
adversity and reach his goals, have paid off after football. These lessons are seen
between the lines in the popular book on his life, “Fighting Back.

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Barry Smith was born and raised in Miami and was a standout, two‑sport athlete (football and track) at Miami Coral Park HS. He was All-State and honorable mention All-American at wide receiver and a state champion high hurdler. To this day, he is among the 100 top all-time HS football players in Dade County. At FSU, he was a two-sport athlete – running on the record-breaking High Hurdles Shuttle Relay team as well as a 1st Team All-American Wide Receiver, and NCAA leader in TD receptions and reception yards. He broke all FSU season and career scoring records and held the record for most TD catches of any receiver in the state until 1987.

Drafted in the first round by the Green Bay Packers (1973) he went on to be NFC Rookie of the Year finalist and Green Bay Packer Man of the Year in 1975. In 1976, he joined the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for the franchise’s inaugural season. He was traded to his hometown Miami Dolphins the next year, however the return to Miami was cut short as Smith contracted polio during preseason camp. He was inducted into the FSU Athletic Hall of Fame in 1979 and made the College Football Hall of Fame ballot in 2021.

David Langdon

Football Program Director and Head Football Coach

David Langdon joined the TGS athletic staff in 2023 as assistant athletic director and Geneva's inaugural football program director and head coach. Prior to Geneva, he served as the athletic director and assistant head varsity football coach at Trinity Preparatory School, Winter Park. Geneva will be his fourth position as an inaugural football coach—he started the football programs at Cypress Creek High School, Pine Castle Christian Academy, and Orlando Christian Prep. David also served as the head coach for Dr. Phillips High School. He is a six-time Florida Athletic Coaches Association District Coach of the Year. He is also a former winner of the Herff Jones Metro Conference Boys’s Track and Field Coach of the Year Award. Coach Langdon currently serves on the leadership board for the Metro Seminole County Fellowship of Christian Athletes.

David and his wife, Christina, have three adult children—twin daughters, Lilly and Melanie, and son, Kellen.

Frank Pomarico, from Howard Beach, New York, moved into the starting lineup at left guard during his sophomore year in 1971 at Notre Dame. He remained a fixture for the Irish through the 1973 season when he was named tri-captain, along with Dave Casper and Mike Townsend.There were bigger players for the Irish, faster players, and players who went on to stellar professional careers. But no one cherished his role as a leader of the Notre Dame squad more than the 6-foot-1, 250-pound Pomarico. His journey to and through Notre Dame truly was a labor of love toward his alma mater.Here is Pomarico's story as told to Irish Illustrated senior editor Tim Prister, the author/editor of What It Means To Be Fighting Irish (copyright 2004, Triumph Books, Chicago, Ill.)Notre Dame was a simple choice for me. When I was growing up in New York, Gerry DiNardo and I were classmates in grade school and high school, and his brother, Larry, was someone we looked up to.So now I get to high school, Larry goes to Notre Dame, Gerry and I are sophomores in high school, and Larry comes back talking about this guy named Ara Parseghian. Of course, Larry could have gone to any school he wanted. All the academies, Harvard…but he picked Notre Dame because I think he thought that was his greatest challenge athletically as well as academically. Our goal was, 'Maybe someday that can happen to us.'My senior year I was recruited by North Carolina and Notre Dame. Places like Villanova said I was too small. Most other schools thought I was too small. I was 6-foot-1, about 235 when I came to Notre Dame.Ara took a chance on me. He had success with Larry and thought, 'Let's see if we can have a warm body with Frank.'I knew all about Ara before I got there. Ara was a very, very impressive guy. He's got these piercing eyes that make you stand at attention, and everything he said was gobbled up because we felt if we wanted to be successful as a team, as individuals we were going to try to emulate his intensity, his character. That was something that we believed in. Even if you lost games, you would still win by showing your character and strong will.Ara instilled in us that the game may be over and we may have lost the battle, but we didn't lose the war. We were always trying to achieve and improve on the athletic field, as individuals, or in the classroom. So it was never really lost; time just ran out. He used to talk about not having a breaking point.When I think of my greatest memories at Notre Dame, the first one was my sophomore year (1971) against Northwestern when we came out of that tunnel. It was more than just coming out of the tunnel. It was also the feeling and emotion that was shared with me by guys like Walt Patulski, Dan Novokov, John Dampeer, Andy Huff, Ed Gulyas, John Cieszkowski…They were supportive. These guys were saying, 'You're going to do it; it's going to be easier than practice!' So we go out, score the first touchdown over my hole, and went on to win, 50-7.The most satisfying game was the Southern Cal game in 1973 (a 23-14 victory). They were national champs in 1972 and 1974, and when we played them in 1973, we were 5-0. The first four games of that year I had ripped up my ankle and I was in a cast for about a month. I came back for the Rice game and only played on an extra point. I started the Army game and I probably wasn't ready, but I wanted to come back. I knew if I didn't come back for the Army game, I probably wouldn't play against Southern Cal.We had a strong ground game. We were going to grind it out. We weren't going to win on the big play. The buildup to that game after Anthony Davis had scored six touchdowns the year before was intense. Playing against them was an emotional, electric time.We did (grind it out against them), but we also had an 85-yard touchdown run by Eric Penick, so we did beat them with the big play as well.My college career culminated with the (24-23) victory over Alabama in the Sugar Bowl to win the national title. It was overwhelming. Seven years of dreaming ended in the locker room with myfather, my grandfather, and my little brother, not yelling and screaming, but just watching everybody go crazy. I don't think we had the animosity toward Alabama that we had toward Southern Cal, but it was a humongous victory for us.That year, Ara had broken precedent by making three of us captains. I think it was very close in the voting between me and David Casper as the offensive captain. So Dave was the team captain, I was the offensive captain, and Mike Townsend was the defensive captain, so to speak. We all had different roles. I was more of a quiet leader. I tried to lead by example through hard work during the off-season and tried to do the right thing.One time somebody asked me if the tradition of Rockne and Gipper helped us in our games, and I said, 'The tradition here is the guys I'm with right now that make it such a special place. They're the guys who help me. Because of the people, there is no place in the world quite like Notre Dame.Frank Pomarico, is in sales in Jackson, Mich. He also coaches tight ends and tackles at Lumen Christi High School, where his son, Tommy, starred the in 2005 and 2006.  Tommy went on to the University of Michigan to become a three year starter for the Wolverines as a long snapper and played in the Gator Bowl and finished his career in the Sugar Bowl victory at the end of the 2011 season.  We thank Lloyd Carr at the University of Michigan for having faith in Tom’s ability to play there."People say to me, 'How can you send your son to Michigan?' Pomarico laughed. "I tell them, 'I pray for Notre Dame, but, now I root for Michigan.'Pomarico does a radio show with former UNLV football coach Harvey Hyde (1982-85) in Las Vegas and still loves talking about Notre Dame Football. Like Irish fans, he sees the upcoming schedule as rigorous, but views it with encouragement and confidence in Brian Kelly’s ability to take Notre Dame to new heights in the future.

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Froggers Grill & Bar in Apopka opened in 2004 and features a casual restaurant sports bar atmosphere specializing in Wings and full liquor bar with 12 beers on tap, over 32 HD LED TV's, 3 Big Screen Projectors, a pool table and dartboards.

Head coach Marcus Neeson began with the Blue Darters as the freshman defensive coordinator before becoming the freshman head coach. He later coached the varsity secondary and served as defensive coordinator in 2023 before taking over as head coach in 2025. 

Scott Perry is the head football coach of the Lake Mary High School Rams, where he recently guided the program to its first state title. 

• Tenure: Serving his 21st year as head coach at his alma mater.
• Record: Holds an overall career coaching record of 152-82.
• Staff: Works alongside key assistants like offensive coordinator Adam Donnelly. 

Recent Achievements

• Championship Season: Led the Rams to a 12-3 record in 2025.
• State Title: Won the Class 7A state championship by defeating Vero Beach 28-27 in December 2025. 

Personal Background

• Alumnus: Graduated from Lake Mary High School before returning to coach the team.
• College Career: Played football as a lineman for the Florida Gators

Patrick Browning is Edgewater High School's Head Coach for their football program.

Paul Lounsberry is a veteran football coach best known as a longtime assistant at UCF, where he coached the offensive line from 1987–1999 and recruited quarterback Daunte Culpepper. With a 41-year coaching career, he also coached at Florida, South Carolina, Temple, and at the high school level.

The Dave Powers Crying Towel Event is an annual preseason gathering where high school football head coaches from Central Florida—including Apopka, Edgewater, Boone, and Bishop Moore—gather for dinner, humor, and a radio broadcast to kick off the new football season.

Malcolm E. "Mac" Steen (born June 30, 1948) is a former college football player and orthodontist. Steen was a prominent tackle for coach Ray Graves' Florida Gators of the University of Florida from 1967 to 1969.Graves rated Steen as the Gators best right tackle of the 1960s. He was the senior team captain in 1969.

 Richard Trapp

​  My resume includes graduation from the University of Florida, during which I was an All-American football and baseball player, then attending law school there while playing football in the NFL. I practiced for years with an insurance defense firm and, later, opened my own firm handling plaintiff cases in the fields of personal injury and commercial litigation. I have tried medical malpractice, divorces, will contests, homeowner association cases, and all types of personal injury matters. I am no longer a member of the Florida Bar and have been mediating on a full-time basis, throughout the state of Florida, since 2012. I am a Supreme Court certified circuit court mediator. Included on my page under "Attorney References" is a list of many attorneys I have mediated for, along with phone numbers and email addresses. Please feel free to contact any of them about my expertise. You will find that every attorney appreciated my efforts and would not hesitate to use me again.
Specifically, why should you hire me for a mediation?
1. I practiced for years as a defense attorney and for years as a plaintiff attorney. As such, this dual insight allows me to better understand the motivations and concerns of both sides.
2. I have successfully mediated well over 3,000 cases since 1999, the year of my first case that I mediated. Experience counts. I have mediated with almost any type of litigant (and attorney) and have learned how to gain the trust of the parties involved, which is very important in settling cases.
3. I handle only personal injury (which includes medical malpractice), commercial, and homeowners association cases (HOA). Regarding HOA cases, I have lived in HOA communities in the past and have served on HOA boards; thus, I am very familiar with those types of issues. I have mediated over 500 HOA cases.

Talking Old School: 7-15-26

Talking Old School: 7-11-26.

Marcus Neeson is the head coach of Apopka High School's football program.

Leamon Hall graduated the USMA in 1978 as the Black Knights' all-time passing leader on game, season, and career levels and virtually re-wrote Army's passing record book during his three-year career as a starter. Leamon Hall still holds the standard for single-game passing (385 yards) and in career touchdown passes (38). He was inducted into the Army Sports Hall of Fame in 2020.

After serving in the US Army, Leamon briefly played professional football and then launched a lengthy successful career on Wall St. joining IBM’s Financial Services Industry organization. He became a Trader for Lehman Bros. and then moved on to Merrill Lynch, serving as a VP in the prestigious Institutional Sales and Trading organization. In 1996, Leamon returned to IBM as an executive forging alliances with IBM’s strategic business partners providing software solutions. 

He is recently retired, living with his family in the Atlanta, GA area and continuing his 20+ years of coaching youth athletic teams in football (no surprise there) and baseball.

Dan LaForest is a Wealth Advisor and Financial Planner with Security Financial Management, Inc. in Orlando, FL. SFM is a full-service financial planning firm and is one of the largest independent firms in Florida. He provides financial solutions and advice to retirees, business owners, and those seeking long-term guidance.

Dan has carried over his passion for advocating education and financial literacy from his day-to-day operations to promoting student-athletes with enthusiasm. Dan has also been involved with high school sports at many levels for over a decade, playing a significant role in shaping and promoting the sports programs and the athletes who participate. He is a member of the Orlando TD Club, Florida Citrus Sports, Cure All-Star Games, former owner of Varsity Sports Network, and host of the Central Florida High School Scoreboard Show.

Dan grew up in Apopka where he played at Apopka High School and graduated from East Tennessee State University (1988-1993) where he received his degree in Business Management and lettered on the football team.

Talking Old School: 7-8-26